RECSI - Polysilicon Shortage Decides Installation Pace 2022-2027

manman01
RECSI 25.04.2022 kl 00:15 39426

Chinese PV Industry Brief: Daqo reports polysilicon average selling price of $32.76/kg in Q1
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/04/22/chinese-pv-industry-brief-daqo-reports-polysilicon-average-selling-price-of-32-76-kg-in-q1
APRIL 22, 2022
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“We are very pleased to report exceptional results for the first quarter of 2022, the best-ever in the company’s history,” said Daqo CEO Longgen Zhang. “Last December, we began production at our new 35,000 MT phase 4B polysilicon expansion project. Production ramp up was successful throughout the first quarter.” Looking forward, Daqo said it expected to produce between 32,000 MT to 34,000 MT of polysilicon in the second quarter of 2022 and approximately 120,000 MT to 125,000 MT of polysilicon in the full year of 2022.

“We believe the polysilicon sector will remain one of the most profitable sectors in the solar PV value chain, as polysilicon will continue to be in short supply and determine the actual pace and total volume of global installations,” the company stated.
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Main Industry Chain Prices Saw Minor Increment except Wafers amidst Incessant Pandemic-Induced Impact
https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes/20220421-27871.html
APRIL 21, 2022
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Polysilicon prices continued to increase marginally this week, with overall mono polysilicon quotations sitting at roughly RMB 252/kg. With most long-term orders for April being signed, polysilicon transactions were relatively sluggish this week, where merely a small amount of urgent and sporadic orders were signed. In addition, the various extents of impact on output and logistics among polysilicon businesses under the pandemic have resulted in a constrained provision of raw materials, and the confined production schedule has impeded the supply of partial long-term orders. Urgent orders are being concluded on a high price level, which surged the average concluded prices of polysilicon this week.

An observation on the production, operation, and shipment status of the polysilicon segment indicates that two businesses are currently under overhaul. Polysilicon is insufficient in terms of new capacity release. Some wafer businesses are lowering their operating rate due to the pandemic, though they are maintained on a relatively high operating rate on the whole owing to gradually releasing capacity, and these businesses’ unabated demand for polysilicon will provide a support for polysilicon prices in lingering at a high level within the short term.
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Chinese PV Industry Brief: Polysilicon prices keep rising
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/04/15/chinese-pv-industry-brief-polysilicon-prices-keep-rising-2/
APRIL 15, 2022

Polysilicon maker predicts 5-year shortage of solar raw material
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/04/20/polysilicon-maker-predicts-5-year-shortage-of-solar-raw-material/
APRIL 20, 2022

Wacker falls to fourth in global polysilicon ranking
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2022/04/27/wacker-falls-to-fourth-in-global-polysilicon-ranking/
APRIL 27, 2022
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‘Follow China’s lead’

“Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has opened the eyes for what it means to be economically dependent on a dictatorial regime,” said Bernreuter. “Western governments should not make the same mistake with China. It is high time to establish non-Chinese solar supply chains. China has demonstrated what the ingredients of success are: low electricity rates for power-hungry polysilicon and ingot production, loan guarantees for private investment, cost-efficient equipment manufacturing, and strategic foresight.”
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Polysilicon price fluctuations expected to continue until late 2023
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/02/24/polysilicon-price-fluctuations-expected-to-continue-until-late-2023/
FEBRUARY 24, 2022

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Kilde til overskrift
POLYSILICON PRICE TREND
https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend
APRIL 20, 2022
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The slight decrease in the average polysilicon spot price on April 20 is purely due to a weakening Chinese Yuan; EnergyTrend’s spot price average of mono-grade polysilicon in China has further risen to CNY252/kg (incl. 13% VAT) from CNY251/kg last week.
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Our recommendation
Bernreuter Research recommends that you you look at PVinsights, EnergyTrend and PV InfoLink for comparison, rather than favoring the price data from just one provider.

Statements on the market trend can be contradictory from time to time. If, for instance, one data provider reports high polysilicon inventories in the value chain whereas the other claims low ones, the latter may be based on information from suppliers that are interested in playing down the scope of inventories in order to be in a better bargaining position vis-à-vis their customers. For this reason, it is always a good idea to base your judgment on several views and sometimes, you just have to live with information discrepancies.
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http://pvinsights.com/
https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes.html
https://www.infolink-group.com/en/solar/spot-price

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What’s next for polysilicon?
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/10/26/whats-next-for-polysilicon/
OCTOBER 26, 2021

China’s cheap electricity crowds out foreign polysilicon
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/02/18/chinas-cheap-electricity-crowds-out-foreign-polysilicon/
FEBRUARY 18, 2021

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Polysilicon market analyst Johannes Bernreuter says China imported around 30% less polysilicon last year and cornered 80% of the global market for its domestic manufacturers, fueled by uber-low electricity prices.

“South Korea’s polysilicon industry was out-competed by Chinese producers who enjoy extremely low and subsidized electricity rates from coal-fired power plants in the western regions of Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia,” said Bernreuter, noting Korean players OCI and Hanwha exited the market a year ago, citing electricity prices.
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Solar Power May Be the Next Victim of China’s Coal Shortage
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-29/china-slashes-silicon-output-signaling-higher-solar-panel-costs
SEPTEMBER 29, 2021

China’s power crisis:
Long-term goals meet short-term realities
https://a9w7k6q9.stackpathcdn.com/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Chinas-power-crisis.pdf

Solar outlook looks bright amid Russia-Ukraine war
https://www.infolink-group.com/en/solar/analysis-trends/PV-markets-remain-bullish-amid-Russia-Ukraine-conflicts
MARCH 31, 2022
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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has caused oil and natural gas prices to surge. This put renewable energy in the spotlight again. European countries, being aware of their dependence on Russian oil and natural gas, are rolling out plans to diversify energy sources and facilitate the transition to renewables.
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Cumulative installed solar PV capacity worldwide from 2000 to 2020
https://www.statista.com/statistics/280220/global-cumulative-installed-solar-pv-capacity/#:~:text=Global%20cumulative%20solar%20photovoltaic%20capacity,installed%20in%20that%20same%20year.
Redigert 09.07.2022 kl 12:44 Du må logge inn for å svare
recyara
11.08.2022 kl 09:15 2412

silisium prisene videre opp i dag på sunsirs.
manman01
04.08.2022 kl 08:40 2836

Polysilicon Chemical 291666.66 2022-08-04
Polysilicon Chemical 283333.34 2022-08-03
Polysilicon Chemical 283333.34 2022-08-02
Polysilicon Chemical 283333.34 2022-08-01
Polysilicon Chemical 278333.34 2022-07-31
Polysilicon Chemical 278333.34 2022-07-30
http://www.sunsirs.com/uk/prodetail-463.html

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Polysilicon (Per KG)2022/08/04 update
item High Low Avg Chg
Mono Recharge Polysilicon (RMB) 310 298 302 ( 1.68 % )
Mono Dense Polysilicon (RMB) 307 295 300 ( 1.69 % )
Polysilicon Outside China (USD) 40.716 38.889 39.792 ( 2.57 % )
https://www.energytrend.com/solar-price.html

Artikel kommer senere, følg med her: https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes.html

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Current polysilicon spot price: US$38.20 per kg +/-0%
Last update: July 27, 2022
https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend/
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August 3, 2022: EnergyTrend’s spot price update has been delayed this week. The price for medium quality of mono-grade polysilicon tracked by the Silicon Branch of the China Non-ferrous Metals Industry Association has risen to CNY300/kg from CNY295.5/kg (incl. 13% VAT) last week.
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(Udgives senere i dag)
Upstream price hike slows as demand stall
https://www.infolink-group.com/energy-article/Upstream-price-hike-slows-as-demand-stall
AUGUST 3, 2022
Redigert 04.08.2022 kl 08:41 Du må logge inn for å svare
PHOinvestor
04.08.2022 kl 08:34 2911

opp 40 % siden mai
recyara
04.08.2022 kl 08:32 2937

Polysilisiumprisene videre opp i dag på sunsirs.
Sa2ri
02.08.2022 kl 21:48 3257

Commodity Sectors Price Date
Polysilicon Chemical 283333.34 2022-08-02
Polysilicon Chemical 283333.34 2022-08-01
Polysilicon Chemical 278333.34 2022-07-31

http://www.sunsirs.com/uk/prodetail-463.html
Skalleknarp
30.07.2022 kl 21:58 3732

Når man ser mange år frem i tid tror jeg nok at det vil tvinge seg frem at det er betraktelig mindre fossilt brennstoff tilgjengelig enn det prognosene tilsier og til astronomiske priser. Da vil bla. sol få enda større trykk… Se bare ute i verden. Enten tørker og brenner det eller så flommer det over. Man tør vel ikke lenger fornekte menneskeskapt klima endringer - mao intet valg!!
Svenn_13
29.07.2022 kl 18:59 4451

The PV industry needs 12 times more polysilicon production capacity by 2050

New research from the University of New South Wales (UNSW) predicts cumulative polysilicon demand of 46-87 Mt will be required to achieve 63.4 TW of PV installed by 2050.

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/07/29/the-pv-industry-needs-12-times-more-polysilicon-production-capacity-by-2050/
29.072022
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manman01
27.07.2022 kl 18:21 4768

Som postet af Sa2ri på ugetråden:
Item High Low Average AvgChg AvgChg%
PV Grade PolySilicon (9N/9N+) 41.950 27.500 38.320 Positive Change Sign1.19 Positive Change Sign 3.2%
N Mono PolySilicon in China (12N/12N+) 41.950 40.650 41.300 Positive Change Sign1.23 Positive Change Sign 3.07%
N Mono PolySilicon Out of China (12N/12N+) 41.950 41.500 41.690 Positive Change Sign1.29 Positive Change Sign 3.19%
PV Grade PolySilicon in China (9N/9N+) Visit here for more Poly-Si price Positive Change Sign %
PV Grade PolySilicon Outside China (9N/9N+) Visit here for more Poly-Si price Positive Change Sign %
Unit: USD/Kg more Last Update: 2022-07-27

http://pvinsights.com/

Module price hikes slow on limited trading volumes (Tilgængelig imorgen en gang)
https://www.infolink-group.com/energy-article/525
JULY 27, 2022

Polysilicon (Per KG)2022/07/27 update
item High Low Avg Chg
Mono Recharge Polysilicon (RMB) 308 290 297 ( 0.0 % )
Mono Dense Polysilicon (RMB) 301 285 295 ( 0.0 % )
Polysilicon Outside China (USD) 39.851 38.152 38.795 ( -0.39 % )
https://www.energytrend.com/solar-price.html

Current polysilicon spot price: US$38.20 per kg +/-0%
https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend/
Last update: July 27, 2022
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Beside the shutdown of East Hope’s plant in Xinjiang after a fire on June 17, reduced output due to regular maintenance at other Chinese factories has held the global polysilicon spot price average on a high level. EnergyTrend’s spot price index of mono-grade polysilicon in China has remained unchanged at CNY295/kg (incl. 13% VAT).
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Redigert 27.07.2022 kl 18:22 Du må logge inn for å svare
manman01
27.07.2022 kl 10:08 5124

Polysilicon prices poised for further gains in 3Q
https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2354686-polysilicon-prices-poised-for-further-gains-in-3q?amp=1
JULY 26, 2022

Solar Power Equipment Prices Keep Rising in Clean Energy Threat
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-27/solar-panel-costs-rise-in-climate-change-threat-as-longi-boosts-prices
JULY 27, 2022
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Solar power equipment makers continued to lift prices this week as soaring polysilicon costs spread through the supply chain and threaten to slow clean energy deployment.

Tongwei Co. on Monday increased prices for solar cells by 3.2% to 4.1% depending on their size, while Longi Green Energy Technology Co. lifted wafer prices 3.3% to 4.3% Tuesday. The increases came after prices of polysilicon, the key material in both products, rose 15% since mid-May amid factory shutdowns due to accidents and planned maintenance.
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Redigert 27.07.2022 kl 10:08 Du må logge inn for å svare
Slettet bruker
21.07.2022 kl 16:06 5440

Med dagens høye energipriser tror jeg det heller ikke er noe sjans for at polyprisen vil gå noe særlig ned. For at prisen skal synke må først energien blir billigere.

Rec som har tilgang på rimelig kraft og samtidig har en energieffektiv fabrikk, vil dra en enorm fordel i dagens marked.
Intravenøsiu
21.07.2022 kl 15:58 5471

Mener å huske man snakket o en smertegrense i overkant av 20 dollar tidligere for solcellepanel produsenter, det ser ut som denne grensen ligger en del høyere, trolig er vi i det området vi er i nå.

Mulig tynnere wafer/tynnere diamantwire kuttere spiller inn?


Gode utsikter for polysilisium prisen fremover etter min mening.
manman01
21.07.2022 kl 15:53 5499

Tak Sa2ri - Det kunne være jeg skulle begynde at inkludere Sunsirs' med i disse (næsten) ugentlige opdateringer?

Jeg manglede vidst også lige denne fra bernreuter:
POLYSILICON PRICE TREND
https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend/
JULY 20, 2022
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Beside the shutdown of East Hope’s plant in Xinjiang after a fire on June 17, reduced output due to regular maintenance at other Chinese factories is driving up the global polysilicon spot price average. EnergyTrend’s spot price index of mono-grade polysilicon in China has increased from CNY293/kg last week to CNY295/kg (incl. 13% VAT).
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Sa2ri
21.07.2022 kl 15:49 5523

Commodity Sectors Price Date
Polysilicon Chemical 278333.34 2022-07-21
Polysilicon Chemical 275000.00 2022-07-20

http://www.sunsirs.com/uk/prodetail-463.html
manman01
21.07.2022 kl 15:41 5583

End users in holding pattern amid still fluctuating upstream prices
https://www.infolink-group.com/energy-article/End-users-in-holding-pattern-amid-still-fluctuating-upstream-prices
JULY 20, 2022
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Polysilicon
Polysilicon price hikes persist. Major manufacturers sealed long-term orders earlier this month, but prices for sporadic orders continue rising. Trading prices for mono-grade polysilicon keep going up recently. However, overall price range widens. Sporadic orders are delivered at different price levels ranging from RMB 292/kg to RMB 307/kg, though order volumes are limited.

Polysilicon prices, already on a slow upward trend, markedly surge in July, as a result of excess demand and adverse impacts that hold back the growth of real polysilicon supply during July and August. Orders under long-term contracts between major manufacturers have been signed in the past two weeks. Actual production volume is limited, and new production capacities come online slowly. Doubled with a manufacturing accident that posed direct impacts on real production volume, polysilicon manufacturers have little inventory left for sporadic orders on the spot market other than long-term orders.

Investigation of InfoLink covers polysilicon prices at which orders have been delivered from the previous Thursday to this Wednesday and have been signed recently. We track mainstream prices and provide feedback for the industry. Therefore, changes and future price trend will gradually emerge during periods of higher order volume. Prices for sporadic orders are to be heeded.
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manman01
21.07.2022 kl 15:40 5594

Polysilicon Silicon Expected to Defer as Overseas Demand Exhibits Signs of Deceleration
https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes/20220721-29448.html
JULY 20, 2022
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Polysilicon prices continued to climb this week. Mono-Si dense materials and mono-Si compound feedings were respectively concluded at a mainstream price of RMB 297/kg and RMB 295/kg primarily owing to how sporadic and urgent orders had ascended the corresponding prices, though the level of transactions was on the lower end as most polysilicon businesses now lack products to sell, which led to fewer finalized orders despite additional order inquiries. The current strained supply of polysilicon has yet to be mitigated, while overhauls among domestic polysilicon businesses and delayed port arrival of imported polysilicon are also expanding the supply void of polysilicon and wafers, and polysilicon prices are thus carrying on with the inflation tendency.

An observation on the production and operation status of the polysilicon segment this week indicates that Xinjiang GCL, Daqo New Energy, East Hope, Xinte Energy, and Youser have yet to complete their overhauls. According to the production schedule of various businesses, July is expected to see approximately 58K tons of domestic multi polysilicon under a MoM reduction of 5.8%. The increment in production during August will primarily come from the release of several businesses upon their conclusion of overhaul, as well as the release from the expanded capacity of Xinte’s Baotou plant and Tongwei’s 2nd phase plant in Inner Mongolia, though there will be 1-2 businesses that are going into overhaul. Production volume in August will remain higher than that of July, which shrinks down the void of supply, and extends the inflation tendency.
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manman01
21.07.2022 kl 15:40 5595

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Last Update: 2022-07-20
http://pvinsights.com/

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Polysilicon (Per KG)2022/07/20 update
item High Low Avg Chg
Mono Recharge Polysilicon (RMB) 305 289 297 ( 0.68 % )
Mono Dense Polysilicon (RMB) 297 285 295 ( 0.68 % )
Polysilicon Outside China (USD) 40.008 38.302 38.948 ( 0.4 % )
https://www.energytrend.com/solar-price.html

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Current polysilicon spot price: US$38.19 per kg +0.4%
Last update: July 20, 2022
https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend/

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July 20, 2022
https://www.infolink-group.com/spot-price
manman01
14.07.2022 kl 21:46 5947

The skyrocketing price of one critical metal could put a stop to new solar projects worldwide
https://fortune.com/2022/07/14/solar-projects-could-stop-polysilicon-prices/
JULY 14, 2022
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Relief in sight
The good news is that there should be some relief for the solar industry in August.

China’s Silicon Industry Association said in a July 6 report that it expects polysilicon prices to decline slightly next month owing to increasing domestic production.

Polysilicon is made using metallurgical grade silicon, which is then refined through a chemical purification process called the Siemens process. China’s Silicon Industry Association says the factories that use this process have ramped up production recently to help match rising domestic and Western demand.

The Biden administration also announced last month that it wouldn’t impose any new tariffs on solar-related imports for two years in order to reduce U.S. energy prices. And President Biden authorized the use of the Defense Production Act to help encourage U.S. production of solar panels and counter China’s market dominance.

This reduction in industry costs and increase in solar panel supply should help polysilicon prices come back to earth in the coming years.
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manman01
14.07.2022 kl 21:44 5957

PV Price Watch: Module prices rise for first time in months as project delays expected
https://www.pv-tech.org/pv-price-watch-module-prices-rise-for-first-time-in-months-as-project-delays-expected/
JULY 14, 2022
(Alternativt: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pv-tech.org%2Fpv-price-watch-module-prices-rise-for-first-time-in-months-as-project-delays-expected%2F)
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But the industry’s concerns will now fall on solar module prices after they increased for the first time in months, climbing around 1% across the board.

Analysts including PVInfoLink, EnergyTrend and SolarBe all noted the price rise yesterday, with bifacial utility-scale modules using 182mm and 210mm cells rising to around RMB1.97/W (US$0.29c/W). In short, solar modules are about RMB20,000 (US$3,000) more expensive per megawatt than they were last week.

Furthermore, prices for modules bound for distributed solar projects in China – having also rose by around 1% to ~RMB1.95/W this week – are expected to climb to as high as RMB2/W next month.

EnergyTrend has noted the “tremendous pressure” module makers have been under of late and last week’s PV Tech Premium Briefing email included reports that several module makers had elected to shutter some facilities on particular days in response to recent escalations in upstream pricing.

SolarBe has also reported this week that projects in China are being halted in response to the recent price hikes, with domestic appetite for modules at their new prices significantly weaker than appetite in Europe. “In terms of demand, overseas countries have stronger price tolerance and still support demand to a certain extent,” SolarBe’s note reads.
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Redigert 14.07.2022 kl 21:45 Du må logge inn for å svare
manman01
13.07.2022 kl 21:13 6250

Polysilicon (Per KG)2022/07/13 update
item High Low Avg Chg
Mono Recycled Polysilicon (RMB) 302 289 295 ( 1.72 % )
Mono Grade Polysilicon (RMB) 297 285 293 ( 2.81 % )
Polysilicon Outside China (USD) 39.722 37.88 38.791 ( 1.67 %
https://www.energytrend.com/solar-price.html

PV Grade PolySilicon (9N/9N+) 40.950 26.000 37.000 1.47 4.14%
N Mono PolySilicon in China (12N/12N+) 40.950 39.200 39.950 1.32 3.42%
N Mono PolySilicon Out of China (12N/12N+) 40.950 39.700 40.280 1.45 3.73%
Unit: USD/Kg more Last Update: 2022-07-13
http://pvinsights.com/

Current polysilicon spot price: US$38.05 per kg +2.3%
Last update: July 13, 2022
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Correction: On July 6 we confused EnergyTrend’s newly introduced price category for mono recycled polysilicon (CNY290/kg) with its mono-grade polysilicon price index (CNY285/kg). Therefore, our correct global polysilicon spot price average on July 6 was US$37.19/kg, not US$37.77/kg as falsely reported last week.

Beside the shutdown of East Hope’s plant in Xinjiang after a fire on June 17, reduced output due to regular maintenance at other Chinese factories is driving up the global polysilicon spot price average. EnergyTrend’s spot price index of mono-grade polysilicon in China has leaped from CNY285/kg last week to CNY293/kg (incl. 13% VAT).
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https://www.bernreuter.com/polysilicon/price-trend/

China projects delayed due to high module prices
https://www.infolink-group.com/en/solar/spot-price/2022-0713-PV-spot-price
JULY 13, 2022
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Slettet bruker
09.07.2022 kl 14:20 6720

Det tror jeg og.
Men 2 år er jo ingenting i denne sammenheng..

Og så vidt jeg kan se ser det ikke ut til at prisene synker med det første heller.
For ikke å snakke om behovet som vokser utenfor Kina.

Mange takk for oppdateringene 🙌
Stabukk
09.07.2022 kl 13:08 6795

Vi får vel neppe vita pris i ei melding om kontrakt. Kanskje kva sum som evt blir betalt i forskudd.
Mykje tyder på at Rec blir ei pengemaskin, men kor tid oppdagar markedet det og løftar kursen?
Kanskje må vi vera tålmodige nok til solide overskudd kjem på bordet i Q-rapportane i 2024…
manman01
09.07.2022 kl 12:57 6824

Husk også at, ikke-kinesisk polysilicon bliver handlet til premium pris🍀🥂
Redigert 09.07.2022 kl 12:57 Du må logge inn for å svare
Slettet bruker
09.07.2022 kl 12:49 6851

Sykt.... hanwha skal betale markedpris. Selv med en rabatt til 30 dollar blir dette en pengemaskin
manman01
09.07.2022 kl 12:45 6867

Module Prices and Operating Rate May Endure Pressure as Wafers and Cells Follow Up on New High Polysilicon Prices
https://www.energytrend.com/pricequotes/20220707-29259.html
JULY 8, 2022
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Polysilicon prices continued to rise this week, with overall mono polysilicon quotations arriving at a new high of roughly RMB 290/kg. Polysilicon prices have been ascending on a faster pace recently primarily owing to the excess demand status of the polysilicon market that has now exacerbated. Polysilicon businesses have signed for their long-term July orders, with some orders being signed until August. Several businesses are exhibiting apparent reluctance in selling by only willing to sign for 1-2 weeks of orders since they are optimistic towards subsequent polysilicon prices.

An observation on the production and operation status of the polysilicon segment indicates that East Hope has yet to recover production from overhaul, while another four businesses are also gradually entering overhaul. Domestic polysilicon output is expected to drop marginally, whereas the restricted number of arriving ships carrying imported products will also result in a reduction of overall supply within the short term. The persisting end demand that has led to an increase in wafer demand and aggravated the excess demand status has provided sufficient support for polysilicon prices. Sporadic and urgent orders are likely to yield a continuous surge in polysilicon prices before long-term orders for August are signed.
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manman01
09.07.2022 kl 08:13 7097

Låst indtil vi kan holde os on topic igen
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 23:50 7249

Tror nok gråbein har mer rett i sin optimisme om batterier enn deg.

Jeg har hvertfall selv prøvd å være kritisk og har nevnt flere ting som kan være negativt. Akkurat nå sliter jeg med å identifisere nedside 1-2år frem i tid. Annet enn WW3 stort sett. Selve oppturen tror jeg starter nå straks. Tipper vi får info før Q2.
Redigert 08.07.2022 kl 23:52 Du må logge inn for å svare
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 23:30 3957

Teknologien er der. 2024-modeller vil trille rundt med store mengder silisium i anodene. Les deg opp.
Orgle
08.07.2022 kl 23:10 4014

Skjønner generelt ikke hvorfor folk her inne aldri diskuterer mulig scenarios som kan trekke kurs og utsikter ned .
Eller er det bare forherligelse av himmelen ?!
Våkn opp !!
Orgle
08.07.2022 kl 23:03 4039

Skjønner generelt ikke hvorfor folk her inne aldri diskuterer mulig scenarios som kan trekke kurs og utsikter ned .
Eller er det bare forherligelse av himmelen ?!
Våkn opp !!
Orgle
08.07.2022 kl 22:53 4072

Det er bare å drite i hva folk skriver her inne eller hvordan kursen oppfører seg , det som er viktig er at ML vil gjenåpnes , that's it !!
Alt det andre svada som handler om batteri utvikling osv må man ta med en klype salt. Teknologien er ikke der . Rec og aksjen trenger det heller overhodet ikke , gjenåpning av ML er mer enn nok til å satse her.
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 22:30 4125

So what, dette vil jo endre seg når selskapet er klar med planene og deler det med markedet. Dette har jeg messet om en stund, og nå har Sa2ri og Uchi delt mye av de samme ordene fra CEO, May.

Slapp av. Drit i kursen, ta noen kloke råd fra Warren, han er også inne på dette.
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 22:23 4154

Og til tross synker kursen som en stein samtidig som Mac solar index er opp 10% på 4 dager ….
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 13:04 4379

Polysilicon pricing enters hockey stick-growth territory as US$45/kg threshold looms
July 8, 2022

Solar polysilicon prices jumped by a further 4% this week, fuelling industry assessments that prices will soon jump above the RMB300/kg (US$44.74/kg) barrier.

This week’s average polysilicon strike price, using data provided by industry analysts PVInfoLink and Energy Trend, stands at RMB287/kg (US$42.81/kg). This price includes China’s 13% sales tax, indicating a material price of around US$37.88/kg.

While polysilicon prices have remained stubbornly high and have grown modestly throughout the first half of the year, prices have grown considerably in the past two months. Since 4 May 2022, prices have grown by some 14%.

This has led industry analysts to expect that polysilicon prices will soon jump above the RMB300/kg barrier.

In a note issued earlier this week, Frank Haugwitz of advisory Asia Europe Clean Energy (Solar) Advisory (AECEA) stressed that with some instances of pricing already peaking in the early RMB290s/kg, polysilicon prices will soon exceed the RMB300 threshold.

Recent surges in prices have been driven by polysilicon producer maintenance schedules, with AECEA noting that maintenance works are scheduled for five sites in the coming weeks, resulting in a reduced output from the industry’s polysilicon production base.

https://www.pv-tech.org/polysilicon-pricing-enters-hockey-stick-growth-territory-as-us45-kg-threshold-looms/
manman01
08.07.2022 kl 10:56 4582

Fedt at se engagement, men kan vi ikke lige holde os til trådens tema?
Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 10:45 4629

Litt enig med deg her. Inntil videre må vi måle han etter hva han har levert ved de anledningene som betyr noe for markedet, dvs. kvartalspresentasjoner og annen rapportering og kommunikasjon med markedet i sin helhet.

Det vi får referert nå fra private samtaler er enn så lenge festtaler, og det gjenstår å se hva som blir festet til papiret, og ikke minst hvordan dette blir kommunisert ut. Der feilet han senest og ødela fullstendig momentum selskapet kunne, og burde, ha fått.

Jeg er glad for tilbakemeldingene, som gir trygghet for at selskapet har retning mot åpning og gode dealer, men ønsker fortsatt et nytt ansikt i denne rollen
Hankmoody
08.07.2022 kl 10:44 4631

Takk for fenomenalt initiativ og informasjon fra møtet med CEO Uchi! Størst mulig respekt for det. Jeg gikk glipp av både muligheten for å stille spørsmål, og selve møtet. Lurer da på om du kan ettersende en mail med et spørsmål jeg har som ikke ble fremlagt etter det jeg kan se. Neida, ehhehehe, :)
Alle spørsmålene var meget bra, men, en sak som er litt mindre viktig, men som jeg synes er ganske viktig; Og det er at jeg synes de burde starte med å "forvandle" REC fra kjedelig industriselskap til et mer moderne og mer frempå og gjenkjennelig selskap. Siden pandemiens start har demografien over hvem som investerer i aksjer forandret seg ganske mye. Casinoene stengte og MYE penger fra mange gamblere havnet på børsen istedet, først og fremst i US. Tesla var kanskje første selskapet som dro det lasset. Folk hørte om ansatte ved Tesla, som har aksjer som en del av lønna, og som siste par årene har hatt kjempeavkastning, og slik info sprer seg. Burde vært vurdert også i RECs tilfelle. Større eierskap til den enkeltes jobb.
Ny hjemmeside, gjerne en markedsavdeling som kan lage f eks en del dronevideoer over anleggene til REC (uten å avsløre noe IP seff). Flere bilder, bilder/artikler. Nyheter må ikke være kjempeviktige hver gang en melding sendes ut. For eksempel; Jo flere ganger et selskap nevnes på Reddit hver uke(Og også Google mener jeg å huske), desto større er sjansen for at kursen går bedre enn gjennomsnittet. Det er fakta.
Mye kan gjøres selv om ikke REC selger sexy elbiler. Og dette med alle de nye investorene som kom i pandemien er det vel blitt veldig lite tatt tak i i Norge. Men det er tross alt det som flytter kursen. Flere kjøpere enn selgere. Alle husker oppgangen på alle børser fra etter første sjokket over Covid i mars/april 2020. Her hadde nye investorer en del av skylda for oppgangen, definitivt.
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Slettet bruker
08.07.2022 kl 09:56 4788

Tja, hva skal man si?
Jeg tenker at det er viktig å ta begges utsagn for det de er, personlige meninger basert på relativt kort tid sammen totalt sett.

Det er vanskelig (umulig) å tegne seg et fullstendig bilde av en person basert på noen foredrag og samtaler.
Da blir mesteparten av det man ser farget i stor del av den settingen man ser dem i.

De ulike oppfatningene kan bli sterkt påvirket av så enkle ting som at Uchi kanskje fikk bedre personlig kjemi med May i sin prat, enn Sa2ri.
Eller at samtale nr.2 foregikk på et tidspunkt hvor May vet mer, og er mer optimistisk.

Jeg vil gjette at man ser en helt annen May ved eksempelvis forhandlingsbordet med Hanwha, på kvartalsrapporter, med kollegaene sine eller hjemme med familien sin.

Jeg er enig i at han ikke har hatt den mest karismatiske utstrålingen på kvartalsrapportene jeg har sett ham i frem til nå, men tenker samtidig at det ikke er det viktigste med hans jobb heller, selv om det også påvirker investormulighetene til Rec.

Om tiltroen til May er så dårlig at det påvirker kursen i Rec vet jeg ikke helt om jeg tror på, men jeg sitter ikke på fasiten her.


Edit:
Oi, jeg ser at jeg glemte helt hvilken tråd dette ble skrevet i.
Synd å spore av temaet for tråden på den måten.
Beklager det.
Redigert 08.07.2022 kl 11:05 Du må logge inn for å svare