QEC - Minister open to the LNG Quebec project! đ
Now it turns out that parties in the current government say they will promote LNG if they are re-elected or have to form a new government!
QEC = 30 NOK (2008)
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Minister Pierre Fitzgibbon is still open to the LNG Quebec project | Elections Quebec 2022
By Teilor Stone -August 31, 2022085
Minister Pierre Fitzgibbon is still open to the LNG project Quebec | Ăelections Quebec 2022
The outgoing Minister of the Economy, Pierre Fitzgibbon
GNL Quebec's Ănergie Saguenay project, which was believed to be dead and buried, is still arousing the interest of the outgoing government. Behind the scenes, the outgoing Minister of the Economy, Pierre Fitzgibbon, is keeping the door open, learned Radio-Canada.
According to our information, the CAQ government recently let the government know federal government that it was still open to carrying out the project.
Informal approaches, led by the office of Quebec Minister of the Economy Pierre Fitzgibbon, were reportedly made over the course of the two three months, according to three different sources in the federal government.
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According to one of them, Fitzgibbon's cabinet would have let it be known that after the provincial elections, there would be a desire on the part of Quebec to reconsider and accelerate the project, if the Coalition avenir Quebec is re-elected. This is corroborated by other sources in Ottawa.
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https://thesaxon.org/minister-pierre-fitzgibbon-is-still-open-to-the-lng-quebec-project-elections-quebec-2022-2/31434/
QEC = 30 NOK (2008)
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Minister Pierre Fitzgibbon is still open to the LNG Quebec project | Elections Quebec 2022
By Teilor Stone -August 31, 2022085
Minister Pierre Fitzgibbon is still open to the LNG project Quebec | Ăelections Quebec 2022
The outgoing Minister of the Economy, Pierre Fitzgibbon
GNL Quebec's Ănergie Saguenay project, which was believed to be dead and buried, is still arousing the interest of the outgoing government. Behind the scenes, the outgoing Minister of the Economy, Pierre Fitzgibbon, is keeping the door open, learned Radio-Canada.
According to our information, the CAQ government recently let the government know federal government that it was still open to carrying out the project.
Informal approaches, led by the office of Quebec Minister of the Economy Pierre Fitzgibbon, were reportedly made over the course of the two three months, according to three different sources in the federal government.
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According to one of them, Fitzgibbon's cabinet would have let it be known that after the provincial elections, there would be a desire on the part of Quebec to reconsider and accelerate the project, if the Coalition avenir Quebec is re-elected. This is corroborated by other sources in Ottawa.
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https://thesaxon.org/minister-pierre-fitzgibbon-is-still-open-to-the-lng-quebec-project-elections-quebec-2022-2/31434/
MC Axel
15.02.2023 kl 23:53
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Very interesting!
and Canada is the center point, and the other countries seem to expect that they will also help with LNG. The pressure is mounting
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"Ministers from around 40 countries meet to discuss the current gas crisis and collaborative actions on global energy security and the clean energy transition
News
15 February 2023"
The meeting was chaired by Canadian Minister Jonathan Wilkinson
"Minister Wilkinson said: âRussia's invasion of Ukraine â almost a year ago â has ushered in what the IEA has described 'the First Global Energy Crisis', and today we met in solidarity to send a clear message to the world: we remain dedicated to concrete, collaborative action in order to enhance energy security and achieve our climate commitments.â"
"the reality is that winter 2023-2024 is likely to be the real test"
"The concrete steps we agreed on today, as well as the solidarity we demonstrated, gives me growing confidence that we will be ready to face the next wave of the crisis"
https://www.iea.org/news/ministers-from-around-40-countries-meet-to-discuss-the-current-gas-crisis-and-collaborative-actions-on-global-energy-security-and-the-clean-energy-transition?utm_content=bufferf7c1a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter-ieabirol&utm_campaign=buffer
and Canada is the center point, and the other countries seem to expect that they will also help with LNG. The pressure is mounting
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"Ministers from around 40 countries meet to discuss the current gas crisis and collaborative actions on global energy security and the clean energy transition
News
15 February 2023"
The meeting was chaired by Canadian Minister Jonathan Wilkinson
"Minister Wilkinson said: âRussia's invasion of Ukraine â almost a year ago â has ushered in what the IEA has described 'the First Global Energy Crisis', and today we met in solidarity to send a clear message to the world: we remain dedicated to concrete, collaborative action in order to enhance energy security and achieve our climate commitments.â"
"the reality is that winter 2023-2024 is likely to be the real test"
"The concrete steps we agreed on today, as well as the solidarity we demonstrated, gives me growing confidence that we will be ready to face the next wave of the crisis"
https://www.iea.org/news/ministers-from-around-40-countries-meet-to-discuss-the-current-gas-crisis-and-collaborative-actions-on-global-energy-security-and-the-clean-energy-transition?utm_content=bufferf7c1a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter-ieabirol&utm_campaign=buffer
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solid1
16.02.2023 kl 01:23
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Et skritt nĂŠrmere forlik. đ
Canada, er vertskap for konferansen.
Det skal noe til Ä invitere sÄ mange til denne samlingen dersom de kun vil levere drÞmmer og hÄp.
Lykke til. đ»
NÄ skjer det ! Hold pÄ hatten fremover !
tuja
16.02.2023 kl 08:48
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Nice. Mye som skjer i kulissene nÄ. Plutselig sier det PANG, og kursen tar kvantesprang oppover.
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solid1
16.02.2023 kl 12:37
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Den generelle debatten er viktig.
En pÄgÄende konferanse hvor 40 statsrÄder inviteres av Canadiske myndigheter for Ä diskutere gass-situasjon i verden, kan ikke bare tilsidesettes.
Man er utvilsomt, ogsÄ fra Canadisk side ute etter Ä finne en lÞsning som er tjenlig for alle parter.
Antar en lÞsning kommer, man vet bare ikke nÄr.
Lykke til. đ»
(Les gjerne IEA artikkelen over)
En pÄgÄende konferanse hvor 40 statsrÄder inviteres av Canadiske myndigheter for Ä diskutere gass-situasjon i verden, kan ikke bare tilsidesettes.
Man er utvilsomt, ogsÄ fra Canadisk side ute etter Ä finne en lÞsning som er tjenlig for alle parter.
Antar en lÞsning kommer, man vet bare ikke nÄr.
Lykke til. đ»
(Les gjerne IEA artikkelen over)
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1013
16.02.2023 kl 12:44
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Helt enig lige pludselig slipper der nyheder ud og sÄ stiger vi helt vildt
MC Axel
04.04.2023 kl 20:24
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This article is not about Quebec, but is interesting. Because if you can make an exception in other provinces regarding the LNG ban, then Quebec can do the same
How an LNG plant was approved under the âno more pipelinesâ act
THE EDITORIAL BOARD
PUBLISHED 7 HOURS AGOUPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-how-an-lng-plant-was-approved-under-the-no-more-pipelines-act/
How an LNG plant was approved under the âno more pipelinesâ act
THE EDITORIAL BOARD
PUBLISHED 7 HOURS AGOUPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-how-an-lng-plant-was-approved-under-the-no-more-pipelines-act/
Alle husker vi vel hvor fort det gikk til 30 :-)
minsin
05.04.2023 kl 10:11
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.....SÄ va det Quebec da , og deres satsning pÄ miljÞ...
Kart og terreng stemmer visst ikke helt
https://energynow.ca/2021/10/commentary-guess-where-canadas-488-billion-in-foreign-oil-came-from-and-which-province-imports-the-most/
Kart og terreng stemmer visst ikke helt
https://energynow.ca/2021/10/commentary-guess-where-canadas-488-billion-in-foreign-oil-came-from-and-which-province-imports-the-most/
googleearth11
05.04.2023 kl 10:22
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LOL! Hykleri er ingen ukjent idrett blant Quebecs politikere og befolkning. Liker forĂžvrig utviklinga i aksjen i dag.
MC Axel
05.04.2023 kl 11:35
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We have received a positive energy report this week, which recommends Canada and the provinces to invest in LNG
and soon there will be a G7 meeting where energy security in the West will be the main theme and Canada will be one of the participants
We have received a positive energy report this week, which recommends Canada and the provinces to invest in LNG
and soon there will be a G7 meeting where energy security in the West will be the main theme and Canada will be one of the participants
minsin
05.04.2023 kl 12:18
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Det kommer stadige ny info - som til syvende og sist vil tvinge Quebec mot endring av Bill21
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-a-lack-of-political-guts-leaves-canada-on-the-sidelines-amid-global/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-a-lack-of-political-guts-leaves-canada-on-the-sidelines-amid-global/
googleearth11
05.04.2023 kl 12:30
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Ingen tvil om at pilene peker i en retning nÄ. Gjelder bare Ä fÄ Legault til Ä se det.
Crom
05.04.2023 kl 12:44
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Takk minsin for interessant artikkel.
Den avslutter med: "No matter that there is a strong case for exporting LNG that helps lower overall global emissions, a lack of political guts is hurting Canada's reputation - and the planet."
Den avslutter med: "No matter that there is a strong case for exporting LNG that helps lower overall global emissions, a lack of political guts is hurting Canada's reputation - and the planet."
minsin
05.04.2023 kl 14:35
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April blir en hektisk mnd for Canada mht mĂžtevirksomhet , der LNG vil vĂŠre sentralt
"The Leaders also committed to continuing to collaborate through the Canada-EU Working Group on Energy Transition and LNG that they announced in March 2022. This Working Group is developing sustainable medium-term solutions on key resources and energy that Canada can supply to the EU like hydrogen and critical minerals, as well as the global supply of resources like LNG."
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/07/joint-press-release-occasion-visit-canada-european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen
G7 - Ministersâ Meeting on Climate, Energy and Environment
15-16 April 2023 Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan
https://sdg.iisd.org/events/g7-ministers-meeting-on-climate-energy-and-environment-2023/
CETA - 2023 EU-Canada CETA Civil Society Forum
25-26 April 2023
https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/events/2023-eu-canada-ceta-civil-society-forum-2023-04-25_en
"The Leaders also committed to continuing to collaborate through the Canada-EU Working Group on Energy Transition and LNG that they announced in March 2022. This Working Group is developing sustainable medium-term solutions on key resources and energy that Canada can supply to the EU like hydrogen and critical minerals, as well as the global supply of resources like LNG."
https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/03/07/joint-press-release-occasion-visit-canada-european-commission-president-ursula-von-der-leyen
G7 - Ministersâ Meeting on Climate, Energy and Environment
15-16 April 2023 Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan
https://sdg.iisd.org/events/g7-ministers-meeting-on-climate-energy-and-environment-2023/
CETA - 2023 EU-Canada CETA Civil Society Forum
25-26 April 2023
https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/events/2023-eu-canada-ceta-civil-society-forum-2023-04-25_en
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googleearth11
05.04.2023 kl 14:48
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Ikke umulig at du fÄr rett i at mye avklares i lÞpet av april! Krysser fingre og det jeg har!
SS79
05.04.2023 kl 15:20
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Behöver vi inte vÀnta i alla fall till Juli dÀr de olika fallen ska gemensamt presenteras till domare och domstol?
JÀtte bra att diskussionen tagit ny fart men vad pratar vi realistiskt för tidslinje innan man gör om Bill 21 och stÀllningstagandet till gas utvinning?
Q1 2024??
Realistiska tankar kring detta?
JÀtte bra att diskussionen tagit ny fart men vad pratar vi realistiskt för tidslinje innan man gör om Bill 21 och stÀllningstagandet till gas utvinning?
Q1 2024??
Realistiska tankar kring detta?
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hgsd33
06.04.2023 kl 10:54
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Indigenous Leaders Call on G7 to Prioritize Canadian LNG â April 5, 2023
https://www.cpac.ca/episode?id=62b152d6-250c-4225-b7b1-cd5cedff9555
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hgsd33
06.04.2023 kl 18:37
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Europe has not made enough progress in locking in long-term contracts for liquefied natural gas (LNG) as an alternative to Russian pipeline supply, which may prove costly next winter as a rebound in Chinese demand could sharply tighten the market.
https://www.reuters.com/article/lng-europe-supply-idAFL8N36309J
https://www.reuters.com/article/lng-europe-supply-idAFL8N36309J
Fjellbris
06.04.2023 kl 19:30
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MB pÄ Twitter tidligere i ettermiddag:
Over one million without electricity as the energy crisis in Quebec slowly gets worse. Putting your energy eggs in one basket is risky for society.
Over one million without electricity as the energy crisis in Quebec slowly gets worse. Putting your energy eggs in one basket is risky for society.
MC Axel
08.04.2023 kl 02:25
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More of the same!
I believe this can only be achieved with Canadian help!
G7 climate ministers consider endorsing new gas investments
REUTERS REUTERS
7 April, 2023, 3:02 pm
BRUSSELS/TOKYO (Reuters) â Climate ministers of the Group of Seven countries may make the case for new investments in natural gas supply, despite assessments that such investments would thwart globally agreed climate change goals, according to a document seen by Reuters.
https://www.fijitimes.com/g7-climate-ministers-consider-endorsing-new-gas-investments/
I believe this can only be achieved with Canadian help!
G7 climate ministers consider endorsing new gas investments
REUTERS REUTERS
7 April, 2023, 3:02 pm
BRUSSELS/TOKYO (Reuters) â Climate ministers of the Group of Seven countries may make the case for new investments in natural gas supply, despite assessments that such investments would thwart globally agreed climate change goals, according to a document seen by Reuters.
https://www.fijitimes.com/g7-climate-ministers-consider-endorsing-new-gas-investments/
minsin
08.04.2023 kl 11:55
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"The draft statement said the countries expect demand for LNG to âcontinue to growâ in countries that can afford to later replace gas with net zero emissions energy sources."
This statement will be tailormade for LNG export over Canadas East coast.
The TC Energys planned pipeline ("Energy East pipeline") to St.John and/or Goldboro, will be a LNG pipeline which will be converted to Hydrogen pipe sometime after 2043.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_East
Looks like the world leaders , does really have a high focos on Canada east LNG export at the moment
Surely Legault & Quebec will bend off, and support
The environmentalists got heir victory with "SaguenayâSt. Lawrence Marine Park"
Legault got his 10 billion federal icebreaking contract - a big win for Quebec.
Nxt win? Change of Bill 21 , and export over east coast?
Don`t forget Legault have a huge problem with energy supplies locally , today still millions have lost their power supply in Quebec , future LNG deliveries will help
6 pst of the customers in Quebec dosn`t have power due to Power outages caused by the freezing rain, today !
https://poweroutages.hydroquebec.com/poweroutages/service-interruption-report/index.html
This statement will be tailormade for LNG export over Canadas East coast.
The TC Energys planned pipeline ("Energy East pipeline") to St.John and/or Goldboro, will be a LNG pipeline which will be converted to Hydrogen pipe sometime after 2043.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_East
Looks like the world leaders , does really have a high focos on Canada east LNG export at the moment
Surely Legault & Quebec will bend off, and support
The environmentalists got heir victory with "SaguenayâSt. Lawrence Marine Park"
Legault got his 10 billion federal icebreaking contract - a big win for Quebec.
Nxt win? Change of Bill 21 , and export over east coast?
Don`t forget Legault have a huge problem with energy supplies locally , today still millions have lost their power supply in Quebec , future LNG deliveries will help
6 pst of the customers in Quebec dosn`t have power due to Power outages caused by the freezing rain, today !
https://poweroutages.hydroquebec.com/poweroutages/service-interruption-report/index.html
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Jensi
08.04.2023 kl 13:13
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Lad dem fryse - en kold Quebec'er kan mÄske blive en vred Quebec'er - brug din vrede mod din tyran ! (Legault)
googleearth11
08.04.2023 kl 13:15
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Tvilsomt. De vil vende sin vrede mot anglo-Canada, som er deres store fiende. Legge skylda pÄ andre er en ganske kjent taktikk hos minoriteter.
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Blue Cow Group
08.04.2023 kl 16:09
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Det stÄr minoriteter der, men du mener vel mennesker? Regner med det var en autokorrekt-feil.
googleearth11
08.04.2023 kl 16:50
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Nei, fransk-canadiere er en minoritet i Canada. BÄde sprÄklig og kulturelt. Men for all del, gjelder jo ganske mange andre mennesker ogsÄ.
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MC Axel
08.04.2023 kl 17:13
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I believe that the G7 meeting will influence the Canadian authorities and that they will start exporting LNG from the east coast
And I like this a lot!
"The draft statement said the countries expect demand for LNG to âcontinue to growâ in countries that can afford to later replace gas with net zero emissions energy sources."
This statement will be tailormade for LNG export over Canadas East coast.
The TC Energys planned pipeline ("Energy East pipeline") to St.John and/or Goldboro, will be a LNG pipeline which will be converted to Hydrogen pipe sometime after 2043.
And I like this a lot!
"The draft statement said the countries expect demand for LNG to âcontinue to growâ in countries that can afford to later replace gas with net zero emissions energy sources."
This statement will be tailormade for LNG export over Canadas East coast.
The TC Energys planned pipeline ("Energy East pipeline") to St.John and/or Goldboro, will be a LNG pipeline which will be converted to Hydrogen pipe sometime after 2043.
minsin
08.04.2023 kl 17:36
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Easter quiz for you guys !
What`s happening in 92Days 14Hours 28Mins ?
I`m sure that the LNG road to east coast will be open by then
What`s happening in 92Days 14Hours 28Mins ?
I`m sure that the LNG road to east coast will be open by then
hgsd33
08.04.2023 kl 18:03
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LNG 10-13 July 2023
Vancouver Convention Centre
B.C. Canada
https://www.lng2023.org/?utm_campaign=sem&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0KvKjtSa_gIVDKOyCh3SrAxJEAAYASAAEgI8RPD_BwE
This year should see LNG project approvals outstrip last year by some margin. They will ease only the tail end of Europeâs energy crisis, but they remain essential to reducing coal use, primarily in Asia in the 2030s and 2040s.
Vancouver Convention Centre
B.C. Canada
https://www.lng2023.org/?utm_campaign=sem&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0KvKjtSa_gIVDKOyCh3SrAxJEAAYASAAEgI8RPD_BwE
This year should see LNG project approvals outstrip last year by some margin. They will ease only the tail end of Europeâs energy crisis, but they remain essential to reducing coal use, primarily in Asia in the 2030s and 2040s.
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Blue Cow Group
08.04.2023 kl 18:21
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Ja, det blir en smule ironisk Ä legge skylda pÄ andre (som du gjÞr pÄ fransk-kanadiere her), for sÄ Ä si at det kun er minoriteter som legger skylda pÄ andre. Jeg mente sÄklart ikke Ä pÄstÄ at fransk-kanadiere ikke er en minoritet i canada, men at det er menneskelig Ä skylde pÄ "de andre", uavhengig av om man er i flertall eller ikke.
minsin
08.04.2023 kl 21:06
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Jupp, to poeng til deg :-)
Det som blir interessant Ă„ se frem til da er Qatars videre satsning i Canada.
Ser de vil bli godt representert under LNG 2023, Vancouver
Virker som om halve verdens fokus er rettet mot Canadas mulige energi leveringer til Europa.
Vil QatarEnergy & Qatargas kjÞpe seg ytt ligere opp i Canada ?? ogsÄ pÄ land??
https://www.naturalgasintel.com/qatar-staking-out-eastern-canada-offshore-for-more-natural-gas-oil-prospects/
Qatar har en offensiv satsning mot vesten der de kjĂžper opp flyselskap , fotball klubber mm - handler vel fĂžrst og fremst om Ă„ kjĂžpe seg vestens " good will"..
Penger har de nok av - de vet Ă„ gjĂžre ting til "business case" - om vi liker det eller ei
"Money talks" - heter det visst
Det som blir interessant Ă„ se frem til da er Qatars videre satsning i Canada.
Ser de vil bli godt representert under LNG 2023, Vancouver
Virker som om halve verdens fokus er rettet mot Canadas mulige energi leveringer til Europa.
Vil QatarEnergy & Qatargas kjÞpe seg ytt ligere opp i Canada ?? ogsÄ pÄ land??
https://www.naturalgasintel.com/qatar-staking-out-eastern-canada-offshore-for-more-natural-gas-oil-prospects/
Qatar har en offensiv satsning mot vesten der de kjĂžper opp flyselskap , fotball klubber mm - handler vel fĂžrst og fremst om Ă„ kjĂžpe seg vestens " good will"..
Penger har de nok av - de vet Ă„ gjĂžre ting til "business case" - om vi liker det eller ei
"Money talks" - heter det visst
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MC Axel
11.04.2023 kl 01:47
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The wind of change???
This makes me think back to what BjĂžrn Inge Tonnessen said, "There is an opening"; "There are signs"; "The Quebec government... it could actually happen"
Bloomberg April 10, 2023
"""the Trans Mountain expansion has â at least temporarily â removed pipelines from the list of a concerns for an industry long hampered by limited shipping options."""
âBeing able to send our barrels into more markets is a big opportunity for Canada,â Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. Chief Financial Officer Mark Stainthorpe said at the Bank of Montreal-Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers conference last week.
More broadly, the Trans Mountain startup takes pipelines out of the menu of major concerns for the time being and allows producers to think about new ways to improve their business, Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers President Lisa Baiton said in an interview.
âEgress has always been a challenge for Canada,â she said in an interview. âBut people are moving away from broad-based discussions about egress challenges and being more thoughtful and strategic on how we can make Canadaâs products competitive.â
Egress = Utgang (googletr.)
Read it all here:
https://www.worldoil.com/news/2023/4/10/trans-mountain-pipeline-expansion-to-boost-canadian-oil-production/
This makes me think back to what BjĂžrn Inge Tonnessen said, "There is an opening"; "There are signs"; "The Quebec government... it could actually happen"
Bloomberg April 10, 2023
"""the Trans Mountain expansion has â at least temporarily â removed pipelines from the list of a concerns for an industry long hampered by limited shipping options."""
âBeing able to send our barrels into more markets is a big opportunity for Canada,â Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. Chief Financial Officer Mark Stainthorpe said at the Bank of Montreal-Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers conference last week.
More broadly, the Trans Mountain startup takes pipelines out of the menu of major concerns for the time being and allows producers to think about new ways to improve their business, Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers President Lisa Baiton said in an interview.
âEgress has always been a challenge for Canada,â she said in an interview. âBut people are moving away from broad-based discussions about egress challenges and being more thoughtful and strategic on how we can make Canadaâs products competitive.â
Egress = Utgang (googletr.)
Read it all here:
https://www.worldoil.com/news/2023/4/10/trans-mountain-pipeline-expansion-to-boost-canadian-oil-production/
MC Axel
13.04.2023 kl 21:58
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This can only happen with the help of Canada
April 13, 20235:28 PM GMT+1Last Updated 3 hours ago
Japan is pushing G7 to step up gas investments - source
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/japan-is-pushing-g7-step-up-gas-investments-source-2023-04-13/
April 13, 20235:28 PM GMT+1Last Updated 3 hours ago
Japan is pushing G7 to step up gas investments - source
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/japan-is-pushing-g7-step-up-gas-investments-source-2023-04-13/
MC Axel
14.04.2023 kl 13:27
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Unbelievable that some are so impatient, but it makes it possible for others to get into QEC cheaply