"Vindman was simply following the training he’d received as a soldier"...

Den var ny! Soldater som får trening i å være illojal mot sin Commander in Chief???

Ja, dette er virkelig revolusjonerende nytt i militær trening og praksis! Har du blitt hjernevasket av FakeNews igjen, nå da Jabbe? ;-)))

*) A commander-in-chief, also called 'supreme commander', is the person that exercises supreme command and control over an armed forces or a military branch. As a technical term, it refers to military competencies that reside in a country's executive leadership – a head of state or a head of government.

En skal ikke lyve om lovbrudd for å være lojal mot en overordnet. Han så noe ureglementert, varslet sjefen, og pga dette ble han innkalt som vitne hvor han selvsagt svarte på alle spørsmål så oppriktig han kunne. Du (og Trump) har jo aldri vært i militæret og skjønner ikke slikt. Tror nok Kelly vet mer om dette enn oss.

Trump har jo vist mang en gang at han foretrekker soldattyper som har begått grove krigsforbrytelset så lenge de er lojal mot ham personlig fremfor de som følger regelboka.

Er du så uinformert???

Vindman så INGENTING - og han har aldri møtt Trump - men han hadde sine egne meninger om hva han trodde sjefen hans gjorde!

Du må sannelig slutte å lese/se Fake News, Jabbe - ellers blir du bare sittende å jabbe meningsløst, virkelighetsfjernt jabb. ;-)))

Trump var ikke Vindmans nærmeste overordnede. Han var NSC ekspert for ukraina og var med på å forberede telefonsamtalen som startet saken. Han lyttet også på samtalen. Det var jobben hans. Han gikk til sin nærmeste overordnede og rapporterte om det han hørte. Han var langt fra den eneste som ble alarmert. Er det noen som ikke ble det?

POTUS - og POTUS alene - styrer USAs utenrikspolitikk!!! Det er ingen mellomledere med autoritet i utenrikspolitikken, bare trusted medarbeidere som sitter 'at the pleasure of the President'! Vindman hørte de facto ikke noe galt på øretelefonen sin - han ville gjerne høre noe galt, men det var bare i hans egen fantasi. Har du ikke sett hele vitneprovet hans? There's nothing there!!!

Du oppviser en imponerende mangel på kunnskap, Jabbe - og derfor gidder jeg ikke tråden din lenger - sorry!

Jeg skjønner at du tror at USA er et diktatur men det er det altså ikke ennå. Vi får håpe det får fortsette slik men vi vet jo at stadig flere ansatte i staten nå vil være redde for å varsle om uregelmessigheter når de ser konsekvensene dette får. Trump og hans følgere er villig til å ødelegge en manns liv selv om han, som kelly sier, fulgte regelboka til punkt og prikke.

Krigsforbrytere har imidlertid Trump stor sans for. De følger nemlig ikke reglene.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/trump-war-crimes/602731/

DRAIN THE SWAMP
DEEP STATE IN PANIC MODE
VINJAMMER1 GAME OVER.
SPIONENE RØKTE SEG SELV UT ( litt takk til schifty

Jabbe... skivebom igjen. Vinjammer-tvillingene er avslørt som spioner og motarbeidet den suverene presidenten over alle presidenter. Durham vil hente dem begge .
Presidenten er deres suverene utenrikspolitiske ledere , uansett om man har ukrainsk statsborgerskap eller ei

Trump hints that Vindman may face disciplinary action from Pentagon
President Trump on Tuesday suggested that the Pentagon should review the conduct of a former White House national security aide who played a central role in the Democrats’ impeachment case and potentially consider disciplinary action against him.
Army Lt. Col. Alex Vindman, who until last week was detailed by the Pentagon to the White House, testified before the House impeachment panel that Trump inappropriately pushed Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

Vindman was ousted from his job on the White House National Security Council on Friday, just two days after the Senate acquitted Trump on abuse of power and obstruction of justice charges. He is to be reassigned by the Pentagon.

DT:
"When I terminated John Kelly, which I couldn't do fast enough, he knew full well that he was way over his head. Being Chief of Staff just wasn't for him," Trump tweeted on Thursday morning. "He came in with a bang, went out with a whimper, but like so many X's, he misses the action & just can't keep his mouth shut, which he actually has a military and legal obligation to do."

John Kelly trodde også på barte-bolten sitt hjelpeløse bokmanus.
Her en liten kommentar til kelly fra januar
.. cuz both Kelly & Bolton are part of the swamp, the deep state! Democrats & Republicans must realize the corruption is on both sides of the aisle & we must stop fighting amongst ourselves and turn and fight the deep state together!

VINDJAMMER 1, prototypen på en spion/femtekolonist i TWH (NSC)

President Trump claimed that many people in the White House applauded after Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, one of the key impeachment witnesses, left the building.

"Vindman was the guy that, when we took him out of the building, the building applauded," Trump said during Thursday's podcast with host Geraldo Rivera. "I don't know if you heard that. The whole building, many people in the building started applauding."

Trump added that he had never met Vindman but thought his actions were "very insubordinate." "First of all, that's very insubordinate, why wouldn't he go to his immediate – he went to Congress or he went to Schiff or he went to somebody," Trump said, referring to Vindman's complaint about the president's phone call with Ukraine. "I'm not a fan," he added.

De som kan snakke litt friere;
-he was reassigned back to the Defense Department which was already slated to happen this summer.
-Swamp Creatures are on the run!
-Vindman 1secretly advised people in Ukraine how to get around and sabotage Trump’s policies. That is treason.
-when someone thinks they are running foreign policy and not the president... they have a problem
-John Kelly planted Vindman in there to leak just to get in the way of president Trump's agenda
-The Obama NSC leftovers are as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks.
-Vindman gave classified information to people without a need-to-know and went around the chain of command to evade certain denial of a request to testify before Congress to give sufficient information for them to know to issue a subpoena--which he was not required to respond as a member of the White House staff while on detached duty (TDY status). He will be offered a transfer to a place with a bad climate and lots and lots of bugs, then retired with a reduction in rank.
-The pillsbury dough boy vindman had to be rolled out of the white house. He should have been the Danish ambassador, he looks like he has consumed many "danish".
-He was sabotaging the president behind the scenes trying to replace the president's agenda with his own. It doesn't get much more insubordinate than that.

En prøvelse for Trump, men også en formidabel utfordring for Trump's lojale medarbeidere i The White House å måtte ha svikerne iblant seg inntil drittsekkene har avslørt seg selv og kan tuppes på huet og ræva ut. Trump har rett og slett valgt å ta den belastningen for å sikre at disse menneskene aldri igjen vil kunne få en stilling i statsadministrasjonen igjen. DRAIN THE SWAMP!

Følg med og ligg i forkant om hva som skal skje på @REALQ 👈 😉

DRAIN THE SWAMP

NAC downsizing. Vinjammer 1 served at the pleasure of the President. He had ZERO legal privileges/rights.

I can tell you that both Vindman brother’s careers are over. Dead! Reasons:
1) Vindman rank vs years of service show that he was close to as high a tank as he would ever achieve. He was not a star. Despite his quotes from since fitness report, he was tapped out. Military evaluation gave zero to do with civilian evaluation...zero. What appears to be a perfect evaluation can be missing one word and you are a failure. The system is that unique.
2) He has a clear napoleonic complex thinking his knowledge was THE policy. The arrogance was astounding and the reason he was tapped out. It actually threatens civilian control if the military.
3) The Defense minister 3 time offer killed his credibility. He instantly had a conflict of interest.
4) His favor vs order statement was flat out wrong.
5) His “call me Lt Colonel” retort was so petty that he looked like a bombastic jerk.
6) His statement that he told his brother is not “need to know”. This was huge re: classified info. This and the “no name” reveal proved he was the leak. This instantly killed his career and his brother’s. This could cause disciplinary action!
7)His overall political cluelessness was shocking. He really did not understand the ramifications of his pomposity.
8)Not informing his direct chain of command (Morrison- a reserve Naval Officer of equal rank) ) was a fatal error. Bad beyond

Vindman was not political unbiased. He was involved in trying to set-up the president in another sham excuse to impeach him. But Vindman inadvertently helped do the country a favor..the impeachment hearings exposed Biden and the Democrats corruption in the Ukraine. Too bad for Vindman that it was not what he intended.

he admitted that while serving as a liaison for Ukraine he was negotiating with Ukraine on being their Sec. of Defense...my jaw dropped when he admitted that but the press never covered it...don't you think THAT should have been reported?

Det kan fremstå som en tabbe at DT ikke fjernet alle Obama-holdovers den første dagen. Det som imidlertid er bra er at Durham får gode arbeidsforhold til å bygge sak mot en rekke spioner/sabotører/femtekolonister. I april/mai kommer Durham-avsløringene, og det vil det bli kamp om plassene på fluktruten til Venezuela.

He he, jeg venter også i spenning på denne rapporten til Durham. Jeg har store forventninger, så mulig jeg blir skuffet. Nå føler jeg ting er på gang og at Barr og Durham har full kontroll. Derfor har jeg ikke åpnet disse FBI trådene ennå, da det bare ville medført spam og jabbing om det samme temaet. Bare det som er kommet frem nå viser at tråden var berettiget.

Jeg har vært befal i forsvaret, men i en svært beskjeden rolle i denne sammenhengen. Det er vel ikke noen tvil om at Havfruen har betydelig mer kjennskap til dette enn det Jabba har. Hans "vitenskap" later til å komme fra diverse obskure nettsteder, eller deilige beist.

"Det er vel ikke noen tvil om at Havfruen har betydelig mer kjennskap til dette enn det Jabba har. Hans "vitenskap" later til å komme fra diverse obskure nettsteder, eller deilige beist."

Jeg bare repeterte hva John kelly mener om denne saken. Du må jo gjerne tro at Havfruen vet mer om dette enn ham.

Vi kan jo ta et par eksempel for å sette det på spissen:
Hva om Trump hadde gjort sin forbrytelse mer tydelig. At han hadde sagt til den Ukrainske presidenten at han vil gi dem full støtte mot russland om han sendte noen leiemordere for å ta livet av Trump's politiske rivaler.
Hva om en menig ser at en overordnet voldtar en annen soldat. Skal han ikke rapportere denne overordnede pga lojalitet?
Hva om en drone operatør får en direkte ordre fra presidenten om å bombe et sykehus. Skal han ikke ha lov til å rapportere dette, som må regnes som en krigsforbrytelse, pga at han skal være lojal overfor the "commander in Chief"?

Jeg vet at dette er å sette det på spissen men det behøves kanskje for at du og havfruen skal skjønne hva dette dreier seg om.

Angående det å følge ordre fra en overordnet så står det i code of conduct:

" I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way."

Legg merke til ordet "lawful". En militær har ingen plikt til å følge en ordre som strider mot loven. Han har selvsagt en plikt og rett til å rapportere oppførsel fra sine overordnende som strider mot loven enten det er hans nærmeste overordnende eller Presidenten himself. Det er jo ikke sikkert en slik anmeldelse fører frem da han som anmelder i mange tilfeller umulig kan ha den fulle oversikten men da er det altså et system som skal etterforske dette. Å nekte folk å rapportere ting som strider mot loven eller hevne seg mot de som leverer en slik anmeldelse,selv om de følger tjenestevei, er diktatur. Det samme gjelder om man hevner seg mot folk som vitner under ed om det de har opplevd.

Nå er det jo ikke Jabbe sine "dersom, hvis, såfremt, i fall" hypotetiske spekulasjoner - og fordomsfulle ønsker - om det du kaller "Trump's forbrytelser" vi snakker om, men om de faktiske forhold og hva som det facto og beviselig skjedde!!! FERDIG SNAKKA!

Mine eksempler var helt på sin plass da du hevder at det er illojalt å rapportere øverstkommanderende. Dette er selvsagt helt feil. Du tror at USA allerede er et tyrrani eller diktatur, og da skjønner jeg jo hvorfor du tenker slik. Det er selvsagt utelukket for en soldat i et diktatur, det være seg Nord Korea, Kina eller facist Tyskland, å angi øverstkommanderende for det han mener er en ulovlig handling. Vedkommende blir i beste fall pælmet ut og i verste fall drept.

Jabba/Fake news.

Se, lytt og lær:
"Please listen closely. You've got to understand right now if you are a conservative, if you are a Republican in the United States of America, you have every, every single right to feel that you are not being treated fairly, that the justice issued in this country is not equally applied,"

"You have every right to feel that way, because it seems that in this United States, on this night, only conservatives, only Republicans, and especially people that like Donald Trump can get prosecuted ... all while Democrats in the deep state can pretty much do everything without consequence."

Roger Stone case should be 'thrown out immediately'

"Prosecutors recommended nine years behind bars for Roger Stone," " ... As of 2018, the median time served for murder ... [was] 13.4 years ... Median time for rape ... 4.2 years. Wow. Robbery, 3.2 [years], assault, 1.4 [years]. Now prosecutors [are] recommending nine years for Roger Stone, for lying? You want the guy to die in jail. That's basically it."

Video link:https://video.foxnews.com/v/6132463287001

Din helt Hannity har en god og adekvat analyse over dems losers patetiske sabotasjekamp
Dems har ingen egen politikk, kun opptatt av sabotasje/kuppforsøk

Dette var en politisk sak, som hillary kjørte gjennom i et forsøk på å rettferdiggjøre sitt eget kuppforsøk, og en jury som var politisk sammensatt.

Former Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker said Thursday he was concerned by the controversy surrounding the jury forewoman in Republican political consultant Roger Stone's federal trial, in which Stone was convicted of charges that include intimidating a witness and lying to Congress.

"Once a juror is corrupt or has a bias, the whole system falls apart," Whitaker said. "Really, I think we should be concerned about jurors -- especially here, unfortunately, in the District of Columbia [where Stone's trial was heard] where they kind of game the system and have biases that they aren't willing to admit."
Video link:https://video.foxnews.com/v/6132470828001

FAKE NEWS WAKE UP

FAKE NEWS WAKE UP
VINJAMMER 1+2 GAME OVER

GRAHAM:
“I think CIA operatives have been out to try to get the president since he was elected,” . “I think there are people in uniform that can't accept this result.”


“Because you wear the uniform doesn't mean you’re exempt from being asked questions. Did he know the whistleblower? Was there a member of [House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam] Schiff's staff that was a friend of the whistleblower? Had these guys been planning for years a way to try to take this president down?”
Sen. Lindsey Graham says President Trump can run on a record that Democrats can't refute

He said that “when a military officer engages in a political bias in uniform, they need to be held accountable,” adding that he believes “there were operatives in the CIA, the FBI and the Department of Justice that took the law in their own hands.”

Graham said he doesn’t know if a military officer engaged in a political bias in uniform, but he’s “not going to be deterred” from asking questions.

“You’re not going to drive me away,” Graham continued. “You tried to drive us away from looking at the FBI. You told us everything was fine with the FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] warrant. You are not going to drive me away from asking questions about the whistleblower.”

Fredrik fake news;

Theres been a problem with leaked interpretations of the presidents phone calls with foreign dignitaries, so when you find someone that you KNOW has been discussing these things with people who aren't cleared to hear the information, there's no choice BUT to remove him from The West Wing. He wasn't "fired", he was just sent back to the Pentagon.....where he deserves to be lose his clearance and be charged and prosecuted for every instance they can find of him shooting his mouth off when he shouldnt. I have yet to hear one Dem comment that Vindman supervisor testified that he's already under suspicion. They should have moved him ages ago.